after listening to this podcast twice already, let's just say richard rohr in his conversation with krista tippett on 'on being', won me over.
[...] To be a contemplative is to learn to trust deep time and to learn how to rest there and not be wrapped up in chronological time. Because what you’ve learned, especially by my age, is that all of it passes away. The things that you’re so impassioned about when you’re 22 or 42 don’t even mean anything anymore, and yet, you got so angry about it or so invested in it.
So already, the desert fathers and mothers discovered this word “contemplation” because I believe they found the word that most believers use, the word “prayer,” to be so trivialized, so cheapened by misuse. Prayer was sort of a functional thing you did to make announcements to God or tell God things, which God already knew, of course. And they created another word to give us access to this deep time, and that word that kept recurring throughout the 2,000-year history of Christianity was the contemplative mind. It’s a different form of consciousness. It’s a different form of time.
anyone who really knows me knows i believe in "god" but i don't believe in the bible and i don't praise jesus or any other specific religious person or text more than the other. i believe in being connected to something larger and stronger. call it mother nature, call it what you want. do whatever makes you feel happier. personally i feel a quest to dig deeper and not just live life on the surface. which is why i'm attracted to people like richard rohr and eckhart tolle for example.
what rohr is saying in the quote above is something i believe deeply in. he's coming at it from a christian point of view, but essentially it's the same viewpoint many spiritual people come from despite what religious background. having a contemplative mindset saves people, whether it be with a religious mindset or not. you can be contemplative without believing in some "higher power". as long as you become conscious, practice the power of now, the power of being present. for me it helps me in moments when i feel a storm inside, when i don't have answers. at times like that i realise the importance of looking for answers within me, and not externally. to look at my reactions. to look for the reasoning behind whatever energy is controlling me. to accept and forgive and to stay in the moment and then let the moment pass in order to embrace the next one.
[...] non-dual is where you move into both/and, where you don’t look for all-or-nothing thinking. And we’re seeing it in our political debates today. It’s almost the only form of conversation left is all-or-nothing thinking. And it’s amazing to me that we could have this many universities in this country and could have this many churches and synagogues and mosques and have so many people still at such a low level of consciousness that they read everything in terms of either/or. And that’s why all of the world religions, not just Christianity, discovered that you needed a different kind of software to deal with mysterious things, holy things.
MS. TIPPETT: And that software is contemplation.
FR. ROHR: Is contemplation, the contemplative mind.
MS. TIPPETT: Right.
FR. ROHR: It’s like putting on a different head, where — let me describe it this way, Krista — you let the moment, the event, the person, the new idea come toward you as it is, without labeling it, analyzing it up or down, in or out, for me or against me. It just is what it is what it is what it is, without my label. At this point in history, you have to teach people how to do that because none of us are taught how to do that. And that, for me, says that religion has not been doing its job for several hundred years because that’s what we were supposed to evolve people to, a higher level of consciousness that would allow them to do things like love their enemies, overlook offenses.
ugh, so good. the conversation goes on and talk about embracing vulnerability, which i'm all about. as someone who grew up sensitive but who identified at a later stage as a tough woman as a defence mechanism, learning to let go and show people i'm not powerful has been so important for me when it comes to self growth. if i didn't start that process i'm not sure where i'd been today. that place scares me. i'm happy i'm not there. i'm nowhere near where i can be, but i'm enjoying now. learning, listening, reading, letting go.
next post will be a shorter one. less deep. maybe. if you want to listen to the podcast yourself, head over here: on being.